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Lake Geneva and BIQ
Jun. 24th, 2004 02:38 amAt least 17 people with LJs attended BIQ Chicago this year. Reading about it in them is like reading about people's parties - while they have intended to describe the same event, the posts seem to describe very different events from person to person.
The part of me that knows that there is no such thing as objectivity enjoys the game of Telephone aspects of all this. "That's not what I said." "That was not what I told you she said." "That's what I heard!"
Only a small, wry part.
Some general thoughts...
If a person whom you are used to seeing behave in one way suddenly seems to be going in a different direction, rather than assuming that the person is no longer worthy of your consideration, assume that she may have a reason, even if you do not know what it is or was.
If you go somewhere with the intention of being disruptive, don't be surprised if the folks whom you are disrupting do not take you seriously.
Protesting that "people who are fearful should just stand up for themselves" is indicative of a missed point.
Insisting that an issue is a general issue when major participants are not present suggests to folks that it is less general than you wish to claim - even if the folks have intentionally exited.
Sugesting that we should drastically expand the offerings of the YA program, using a large group of volunteers is a fine notion - and good for a before bed chuckle.
The suggestion that we should not permit anybody past puberty (yes, including the parents) attend our conferences has merit. Maybe not for practical issues, but for amusement...
Designating a person as evil is evil. Lying to oneself is normal. Lying to others is venal. Lying to others when you know that the person about whom you are lying can't read what you are saying? Political.
The idea that it is not your fault that you did nothing has to be a very funny thought. And good luck on your conference!
Next year in...? Memphis seems a bit less likely than it did. San Antonio, San Francisco... hmm - maybe I should only do places that start with San?!
All well and good to criticize the YA program from '04 (or '03), but what should we do instead? Or as well?
And is having folks who are coming solely to see one or two individuals a problem? Or does it need a different registration... "Adult, Kid, YA, and Guest of semi-famous net personality!"
maybe "Attending, Attending but promises not to get anything out of it, Kid, and Wanna go skinny dipping?"
Needs some work...
On Silent Football: As I told Mr. Dictator-for-Life, any activity in which some of the participants felt that they could not speak up for fear of the reaction against them is an activity that is not going to fly in that environment. And, while I know that several folks have expressed the belief to me that nobody SHOULD have felt that way, more than one person did.
It was two at the time. That number has climbed.
While there has been a call to "ban Josh from running conferences," that is not happening - and nobody in a position to do something abou tit is in favor of the notion... That does not mean that I find it other than objectionable.
Ah well, sleep beckons...
The part of me that knows that there is no such thing as objectivity enjoys the game of Telephone aspects of all this. "That's not what I said." "That was not what I told you she said." "That's what I heard!"
Only a small, wry part.
Some general thoughts...
If a person whom you are used to seeing behave in one way suddenly seems to be going in a different direction, rather than assuming that the person is no longer worthy of your consideration, assume that she may have a reason, even if you do not know what it is or was.
If you go somewhere with the intention of being disruptive, don't be surprised if the folks whom you are disrupting do not take you seriously.
Protesting that "people who are fearful should just stand up for themselves" is indicative of a missed point.
Insisting that an issue is a general issue when major participants are not present suggests to folks that it is less general than you wish to claim - even if the folks have intentionally exited.
Sugesting that we should drastically expand the offerings of the YA program, using a large group of volunteers is a fine notion - and good for a before bed chuckle.
The suggestion that we should not permit anybody past puberty (yes, including the parents) attend our conferences has merit. Maybe not for practical issues, but for amusement...
Designating a person as evil is evil. Lying to oneself is normal. Lying to others is venal. Lying to others when you know that the person about whom you are lying can't read what you are saying? Political.
The idea that it is not your fault that you did nothing has to be a very funny thought. And good luck on your conference!
Next year in...? Memphis seems a bit less likely than it did. San Antonio, San Francisco... hmm - maybe I should only do places that start with San?!
All well and good to criticize the YA program from '04 (or '03), but what should we do instead? Or as well?
And is having folks who are coming solely to see one or two individuals a problem? Or does it need a different registration... "Adult, Kid, YA, and Guest of semi-famous net personality!"
maybe "Attending, Attending but promises not to get anything out of it, Kid, and Wanna go skinny dipping?"
Needs some work...
On Silent Football: As I told Mr. Dictator-for-Life, any activity in which some of the participants felt that they could not speak up for fear of the reaction against them is an activity that is not going to fly in that environment. And, while I know that several folks have expressed the belief to me that nobody SHOULD have felt that way, more than one person did.
It was two at the time. That number has climbed.
While there has been a call to "ban Josh from running conferences," that is not happening - and nobody in a position to do something abou tit is in favor of the notion... That does not mean that I find it other than objectionable.
Ah well, sleep beckons...
